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		<title>Comments for page &quot;Wikidot OpenSource Development Direction&quot;</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Gabrys</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>2462</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I think there is no point if you can get a similar (or even better) wiki for free at wikidot.com. You can't get MediaWiki easily (with such a good support), that's why it needs to be installed here-and-there-and-everywhere.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>natasUF</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>77884</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I don't actually know what the "point" would be other than I just think it would be neat! I don't really want to redirect, but anyways, I guess you're probably right. I'll just stick with what I've got!</p> 
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Gabrys</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>2462</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>OK, so what's the point on having Wikidot "hosted" at <a href="http://wikidot.3waymirror.net/">http://wikidot.3waymirror.net/</a> if you can have it completely on Wikidot?</p> <p>If you want both addresses to work, you can create a redirect, which would be even better, than the iframe.</p> <p>What we do, BTW, would probably allow you to install a Wikidot wiki on Pow-web, because you still need Lighttpd and PostgreSQL to run it.</p> 
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				<title>@Gabrys</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>the url to my website that I use in-line frames for is <a href="http://wikidot.3waymirror.net">http://wikidot.3waymirror.net</a></p> <p>Pow-web is my webhost and they offer an easy mediawiki download, but I don't like mediawiki. So I hope you guys the best!</p> 
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Gabrys</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>2462</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Could you explain what host/software you're sticked with MediaWiki on (or otherwise need to iframe Wikidot)?</p> 
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				<title>Kudos!</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I'm glad you guys are trying to implement this. Right now I'm using in-line frames to display my wikis on my website. Pow-web has issues with domain pointing (grrr).</p> <p>Anyway, my only 2 solutions were to do the in-line frame or choose media wiki (which is very user friendly installation-wise). I hope you guys figure a solution soon. I'm not a programmer, just a simple CSS/HTML Mechanic, so I wish I could do more. Right now all I can do is just keep spreading the word!</p> 
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				<title>Re: I like the sounds of this, but...</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 12:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Ed,</p> <blockquote> <p>This sounds very, very cool! However, one issue some may find frustrating is the lack of Apache support. Those interested in running Wikidot OS on a separate hosting service might have a hard time finding a host that uses Lighttpd. Because I run my own server, this is not an issue for me. In fact, I'm delighted I'll be able to run Lighttpd and Apache side-by-side! I haven't looked in a while, but I know it isn't easy finding a host that provides PostgresSQL and I don't recall many, if any, offering Lighttpd unless you pay a lot more for a dedicated hosted server where you can install whatever you want.</p> </blockquote> <p>I think the problem is not that big.</p> <p>There are basically 3 kinds of people interested in having wiki:</p> <ol> <li>want wiki for something not that important, want to host it anywhere, want to pay nothing or almost nothing</li> <li>want wiki for their project at their work or school, what to host it on their hardware (possible side-by-side with other software) in their local network and give access to it to small group of people (project members, boss, maybe some customers)</li> <li>want full-featured wiki farm or wiki hosting environment</li> </ol> <p>The solutions for the 3 groups were the following</p> <ol> <li>get a free wiki on Wikidot.com</li> <li>install a MediaWiki or other wiki engine</li> <li>get Wikidot software from wikidot.org and start their farm (local or public)</li> </ol> <p>We want people to install Wikidot instead of MediaWiki, but this is not that easy, because MediaWiki is just wiki engine for one wiki and Wikidot a full-featured wiki farm and requires more configuration.</p> <p>And now, this is going to change. If you want a single wiki you won't have to have root permissions, specific Apache/Lighttpd configuration (because Wikidot <span style="text-decoration: underline;">starts</span> its own Lighttpd process, that has any configuration it needs, so it doesn't touches original Lighttpd/Apache configuration files). You don't have to bother about domains and mails.</p> <p>I hope it clarifies why Apache compatibility is not that important.</p> <p>PS: even when your machine don't have Lighttpd, PHP and PostgreSQL installed (but you have a regular user account), you can compile them by hand and start the server on 8080 port (80 is reserved for root), so in overall, you can install Wikidot without asking administration for any help!</p> 
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				<title>I like the sounds of this, but...</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 11:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Ed Johnson</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>38854</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Gabrys,</p> <p>This sounds very, very cool! However, one issue some may find frustrating is the lack of Apache support. Those interested in running Wikidot OS on a separate hosting service might have a hard time finding a host that uses Lighttpd. Because I run my own server, this is not an issue for me. In fact, I'm delighted I'll be able to run Lighttpd and Apache side-by-side! I haven't looked in a while, but I know it isn't easy finding a host that provides PostgresSQL and I don't recall many, if any, offering Lighttpd unless you pay a lot more for a dedicated hosted server where you can install whatever you want.</p> <p>For Wikidot OS to be widely used and grow in popularity, having this easier to install version should help a lot. Having a version that will run on more hosting services is something I think you should keep as a goal - even if it is down the road.</p> <p>I can't wait to see the final result of this initiative! With the install getting so easy, I have a feeling my site might have to go in a new direction soon! ;)</p> <p>-Ed</p> 
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